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The Official Tier List v2

Post by Rei on Mon Jan 05, 2009 3:39 pm

Marc wrote:[color:7c80="Red"]Below you’ll find the second official SBR-B Brawl tier list. The previous tier list can be found here:
http://www.smashboards.com/showthread.php?t=192028

A tier list is an ordered list of the characters based on their competitive value in the current metagame. It basically shows which characters are currently doing well in tournaments. Note that player skill is more important than character choice and match ups can overcome tier differences, but at an equal player level a bottom tier character will usually have a very tough time against a top tier character. This list will probably change over time, as Brawl is still relatively young and the Melee tiers were debated until the very end. So don’t give up on your character just yet, maybe you’re the one to make a difference!

The list was created by the SBR-B after much heated discussion. For the votes, we had members place the characters in groups from 1 to 15 (15 being the highest) and took the average score for each character. The split was decided by looking at the gaps. As the person supervising it, I’d like to thank all SBR-B members who contributed.

SS Tier
Meta Knight 15.00

S Tier
Snake 13.91

A Tier
Falco 13.03
King Dedede 12.94
Mr. Game & Watch 12.50
Marth 12.09
Diddy Kong 11.94

B Tier
Wario 11.47
R.O.B. 11.38
Lucario 10.94
Olimar 10.94

C Tier
Pikachu 10.34
Kirby 10.16
Donkey Kong 10.06
Ice Climbers 9.59

D Tier
Zero Suit Samus 8.88
Toon Link 8.47
Pit 8.44
Peach 8.16
Wolf 7.91

E Tier
Luigi 7.41
Zelda 7.03
Bowser 6.91
Fox 6.66
Sheik 6.44
Ike 5.91

F Tier
Mario 4.56
Lucas 4.50
Ness 4.50
Samus 4.41
Sonic 4.16
Pokémon Trainer 3.94
Yoshi 3.66

G Tier
Link 2.28
Jigglypuff 2.03
Ganondorf 1.88
Captain Falcon 1.63

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This chart shows the score each character got when the votes were averaged. The divisions were placed so that:

1. Gaps between tiers were relatively large, and
2. The spread within tiers was relatively small.

The particular number of tiers isn't special--that's just how the votes ended up. The majority of us believed that using a smaller number of tiers would be misleading, given the results.

Expect the next tier list on June 5th.

-Affinity wrote:

SBR Official SSBB Tier List v2.0

God Tier

Meta Knight

Top Tier
Snake

High/Top Tier
Falco
King Dedede
Mr. Game & Watch
Marth
Diddy Kong

High Tier
Wario
R.O.B.
Lucario
Olimar

Middle/High Tier
Pikachu
Kirby
Donkey Kong
Ice Climbers


Middle Tier

Zero Suit Samus
Toon Link
Pit
Peach
Wolf

Low/Middle Tier
Luigi
Zelda
Bowser
Fox
Sheik
Ike

Low Tier
Mario
Lucas
Ness
Samus
Sonic
Pokémon Trainer
Yoshi

Bottom Tier
Link
Jigglypuff
Ganondorf
Captain Falcon

Adapt wrote:This is a comparison against version 1.0

1. Meta Knight 0
2. Snake 0
3. Falco +2
4. King Dedede -1
5. Mr. Game & Watch -1
6. Marth +1
7. Diddy Kong +4
8. Wario 0
9. R.O.B. -3
10. Lucario -1
11. Olimar +7
12. Pikachu 0
13. Kirby +1
14. Donkey Kong -4
15. Ice Climbers -2
16. Zero Suit Samus +5
17. Toon Link 0
18. Pit -3
19. Peach +5
20. Wolf -4
21. Luigi +2
22. Zelda -2
23. Bowser -1
24. Fox -6
25. Sheik +1
26. Ike -1
27. Mario +2
28. Lucas -1
29. Ness -1
30. Samus +1
31. Sonic +2
32. Pokémon Trainer -2
33. Yoshi -1
34. Link +2
35. Jigglypuff -1
36. Ganondorf -1
37. Captain Falcon 0

Biggest jumps are Olimar, ZSS, and Peach
Biggest drops are Fox, Wolf, and Donkey Kong

No real big surprises here... I thought Peach might jump higher though, along with the fact that Zelda and Sheik should be reversed imo

http://smashunderground.darkbb.com/war-room-f14/the-official-tier-list-t369.htm

^^^^^^^^ Link to old tier list.


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Re: The Official Tier List v2

Post by Rei on Mon Jan 05, 2009 3:44 pm

MK has his own tier now... God tier. laugh laugh laugh

Marth is top tier now!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! (H) (H) (H) (H) (H)

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Re: The Official Tier List v2

Post by SmAsHman on Mon Jan 05, 2009 3:53 pm

down with da tiers!!! I didnt think that captain falcon was sooooo low! wow. I also cant believe Lucas is so low...

As for Sonic, welllll yeah I can believe he is low, but I know he will be in a higher tier soon. People just havent discovered how to properly use him yet. (I hope)
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Re: The Official Tier List v2

Post by Rei on Mon Jan 05, 2009 4:08 pm

Actually, put in to the right hands, Sonic can be a hell of a character. Many mindgames can be put into him. I have seen many Sonic's take on awesome pros and win. I have seen this one Sonic take on CBK (Great DK), Drago (Very Great Marth <33), and Griever (Great Ike) only using 3 stocks in a crew battle... so yeah Sonic is very very good when used right.

CBK(DK) vs NoR4U(Sonic) (Crew Battle) 5

Drago(Marth) vs NoR4U(Sonic) (Crew Battle) 6 cries

Griever(Ike) vs NoR4U(Sonic) (Crew Battle) 7

Dozer(Snake) vs NoR4U(Sonic) (Crew Battle) 8

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Re: The Official Tier List v2

Post by Zero on Mon Jan 05, 2009 4:31 pm

lol, this list came out a few hours ago and people are already discussing about it xD.

WTF, MK IS GODLY NOW O_O. They improved Link by a bit : P.

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Re: The Official Tier List v2

Post by Rei on Mon Jan 05, 2009 5:26 pm

So, since MK and Snake aren't Top tier anymore I guess it's ok to main Top tiers! (H)

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Re: The Official Tier List v2

Post by SmAsHman on Mon Jan 05, 2009 5:45 pm

Yeah, I want to play you sometime Rei. Ive gotten a lot better.

Thanks for the videos!!! cheers (lol he uses gold sonic like i do. that copycat!)
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Re: The Official Tier List v2

Post by Zephron© on Mon Jan 05, 2009 6:42 pm

Rei wrote:
27. Mario +2
28. Lucas -1
29. Ness -1

30. Samus +1
31. Sonic +2
32. Pokémon Trainer -2
33. Yoshi -1
34. Link +2
35. Jigglypuff -1
36. Ganondorf -1
37. Captain Falcon 0
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Re: The Official Tier List v2

Post by Rei on Mon Jan 05, 2009 6:43 pm

Zephron© wrote:
Rei wrote:
27. Mario +2
28. Lucas -1
29. Ness -1

30. Samus +1
31. Sonic +2
32. Pokémon Trainer -2
33. Yoshi -1
34. Link +2
35. Jigglypuff -1
36. Ganondorf -1
37. Captain Falcon 0
ok

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Re: The Official Tier List v2

Post by Zephron© on Mon Jan 05, 2009 7:01 pm

Rei wrote:
Zephron© wrote:
Rei wrote:
27. Mario +2
28. Lucas -1
29. Ness -1

30. Samus +1
31. Sonic +2
32. Pokémon Trainer -2
33. Yoshi -1
34. Link +2
35. Jigglypuff -1
36. Ganondorf -1
37. Captain Falcon 0
ok

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Re: The Official Tier List v2

Post by LittleV on Mon Jan 05, 2009 9:09 pm

Lol, told ya Wolf was going to drop. XD
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Re: The Official Tier List v2

Post by Zero on Tue Jan 06, 2009 3:25 am

Look at how much Olimar climbed up, lol.

Rei wrote:33. Yoshi -1
34. Link +2
35. Jigglypuff -1
36. Ganondorf -1
37. Captain Falcon 0

Looks like Izaw made Link go up x).

:weird: and I still no understandy why Ganondorf > Captain Falcon.

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Re: The Official Tier List v2

Post by SmAsHman on Tue Jan 06, 2009 3:47 am

I knew that fox would drop. I figured in the beginning everyone would still be using him because of his melee greatness. but now people are realizing hes not that good. Yeah thats crazy how much Olimar jumped!
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Re: The Official Tier List v2

Post by Kingdom Come on Tue Jan 06, 2009 4:52 am

Wow, new tier list!

I like that Link has improved, I do believe the tier list in the future will have Link move as high as "King of Low Tier".

Guess there are no "Pro-pro Toon Link mainers".

I guess I will take him to the top.

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Re: The Official Tier List v2

Post by GuruKid on Tue Jan 06, 2009 5:01 am

So... Pokemon Trainer... sixth worst character, eh?
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It's All Going According to Plan, Squirtle!

Squirtle, squirlte!

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Re: The Official Tier List v2

Post by Kingdom Come on Tue Jan 06, 2009 5:34 am

Squirtle < Ivysaur < Charizard < Squirtle < Ivysaur < Charizard < Squirtle < Ivysaur < Charizard < Squirtle < Ivysaur < Charizard < Squirtle < Ivysaur < Charizard < Squirtle < Ivysaur < Charizard

Ivy beats Squirtle if you haven't noticed!

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Re: The Official Tier List v2

Post by PhailWhale on Tue Jan 06, 2009 6:04 am

Rei wrote:Actually, put in to the right hands, Sonic can be a hell of a character. Many mindgames can be put into him. I have seen many Sonic's take on awesome pros and win. I have seen this one Sonic take on CBK (Great DK), Drago (Very Great Marth <33), and Griever (Great Ike) only using 3 stocks in a crew battle... so yeah Sonic is very very good when used right.

CBK(DK) vs NoR4U(Sonic) (Crew Battle) 5

Drago(Marth) vs NoR4U(Sonic) (Crew Battle) 6 cries

Griever(Ike) vs NoR4U(Sonic) (Crew Battle) 7

Dozer(Snake) vs NoR4U(Sonic) (Crew Battle) 8

Man, you should see BOKU. He's the best Sawnic I've ever have played.
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Re: The Official Tier List v2

Post by Rei on Tue Jan 06, 2009 3:53 pm

@ Zero

Deva and Legan helped Izaw too! Razz

@Guru

Lululululz

@Kingdom
Actually there are some very accomplished Tinks out there like Santi, Chip, Amari, Pepito, Melito. Santi is in Texas too I believe lol.

@2L8
You should see Tenki O.o

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Re: The Official Tier List v2

Post by Zero on Tue Jan 06, 2009 3:55 pm

@ Rei

I still belive Izaw is the best ok lulz.

@ Guru

Oh noes, what are they up to!

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Re: The Official Tier List v2

Post by Rei on Tue Jan 06, 2009 3:58 pm

Deva is the best though!!!!! =o

I have talked with Izaw and Deva though and they are both really cool guys (H).

Izaw is a great guy ^_^.

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