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Post by Rei Wed Oct 15, 2008 2:29 pm

This rant is not directed at any of the members in the Smash Underground Community.

Rant Begins Now:

For those of you who worship the Tier list and dog people out for playing a Top tier character... kindly, shut the h311 up. I'm tired of listening to whiners/johnsers who complain about how they always lose to the characters on the higher portion of the Tier list. Seriously, cry moar?

Stop hating the people who chose and like a character just because they like them. I main who I main because I like there games and I'm a fan of them. Not because they are Top/High Tier. Just because someone plays a top tier and you play a low tier isn't their fault. Its nobodies fault. People who main low tiers praise themselves thinking the are so cool and good to main a low/middle tier and half of them aren't even good with their beloved low/middle tier character. I'm not saying drop your low tier and pick a top tier, no. I'm saying stop hating top tier because they have been given the rank as a top tier.

I even dropped one of my favorite game characters thanks to the continuous bashing I get for maining him. They even have a numerous childish and stupid names they have given him. What do they get out of this? Satisfaction for making fun of a VIDEO GAME character? Neutral. I always hear ' Heyz doods, I'mz soo leet cuz i mains Yoshis!!!!11!'... k, good for you. Are you even good with him? *crickets* That's what I thought. If they are so good with low tier characters then why john about how impossible they are and losing to them?

Most low tier mainers just LOVE to give out the stupidest johns possible like 'Snake's nades r so cheepz!!!! D:<'. When they give out johns, all you have to say is... johns and they will shut up Smile. No one likes to be called a johnsers Smile. Making johns against top tiers is good and all, but I can make johns against low tiers too.

Now they are even gonna ban Meta Knight from tournies. I guess that gives them a better chance of winning. Any character can go toe to toe with Top tier. Our own member 'Stealth Raptor' beat my Meta Knight with his Pikachu in the recent Bi Weekly. If that can happen then why ban him? At a recent tournie in FL a Pit player named 'Danny' beat all these Snakes and Meta player and ranked 1st. SSBB Danny (Pit) vs HRnut (Snake) 1. Proof that a good lower tier character can easily overcome a 'impossiblez D:<' character. Danny also uses Marf <3.

I'm not saying Top Tiers don't have an advantage, no. Top Tiers have a lot of strong points and excelling movesets. However, Lower tiers also have great movesets and can easily overcome a Top Tier.

To all the johnsers/whiners/losers:
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Please excuse any typos you may see in this thread. I have re-read everything, but I always seem to miss out on a few typos <_< ;;;;. Darn those Typos.

Btw, Captain Falcon for Top Tier!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! lol!

~Rei~

To be continued... ^_^

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Post by Fyro Wed Oct 15, 2008 2:32 pm

They are equal to the rest of the roster.
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E:Well...Maybe not...They might be a bit better. 10% max. I wouldn't say that that is overpowered, as ~90% comes from skill.
And btw, you said Johns/excuses only 9 times Razz


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Post by Rei Wed Oct 15, 2008 2:54 pm

Johns means excuses lol. XD

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Post by Dr_Maniacal Wed Oct 15, 2008 4:56 pm

Honestly, I've come to not really mind top-teirs. I used to hate Snake with a passion, but now I realize that he actually takes quite a bit of skill and strategy to play after using him a bit myself. The same goes for the other high teirs, like Rob and G&W.

However, I'm still 100% behind the ban on Knight. Unlike Snake, I've found that he requires little skill to use effectively... he's basically a "spam till they die" character, and I've also found that that strategy works most of the time due to his speed and incredible moveset. I can button mash with my nooby little Knight, and beat someone who's actually pretty good with like, say, Lucario. (not to mention most of the heavies) If there's a broken character in Brawl, then it's definitely him. But that's just my opinion, I'm not trying to go after anybody for using him.
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Post by Fyro Wed Oct 15, 2008 5:01 pm

...Maybe I should Get bowser actually my main(Instead of MK), not just under-practice-for-gym...That would also make up my mind who to main...
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Post by Dr_Maniacal Wed Oct 15, 2008 5:16 pm

But but but.... I like being the only Bowser main around here. XD
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Post by Rei Wed Oct 15, 2008 5:23 pm

Yes, Meta Knight does take little skill, but its not fair to the people who actually really like him. They can't play their main just because other nubs abuse and spam his moves? Not fair. The ones who actually do play right shouldn't have to suffer Sad.

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Post by zachisasian Wed Oct 15, 2008 5:35 pm

well i need to state this. i didn't read barely any of these posts. but most of the people who use mk in tournies will say that they want to win the money.
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Post by HanZo Wed Oct 15, 2008 5:36 pm

lol...ok...yet i kinda main mk but i dun see myself spamming...hmm though the down smassh is quick so lol i cant really say
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Post by Rei Wed Oct 15, 2008 5:37 pm

zachisasian wrote:well i need to state this. i didn't read barely any of these posts. but most of the people who use mk in tournies will say that they want to win the money.

Rei wrote:Yes, Meta Knight does take little skill, but its not fair to the people who actually really like him. They can't play their main just because other nubs abuse and spam his moves? Not fair. The ones who actually do play right shouldn't have to suffer Sad.

Nubs includes money whores as well. ok

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Post by HanZo Wed Oct 15, 2008 5:39 pm

but its not like ppl who use mk automaticaly win tournies it takes skill, time, practice , and endurance. lol thats how much ive known at least when i use him
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Post by zachisasian Wed Oct 15, 2008 5:43 pm

hanzo ffs. choose your own color.
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Post by HanZo Wed Oct 15, 2008 5:46 pm

...lol i had this color be4 you so HA... and lol and i wouldnt really say ppl who play mk are broke... mayb some jus play for the lulz...or mayb cuz there broke...
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Post by ZephronŠ Wed Oct 15, 2008 5:49 pm

Lol..

Well, I'm 100% behind the MK ban too, but there are indeed a few people who are skillfull with them, and more power to them.

The only way high tiers piss me off (besides Falco, whose moveset and voice acting just pisses me off... And MK (hypocrite much? XD))
Is if they choose the high tier just because they think they'll pwn and win because they're high.

Te voya matar DOS VECES!!! (if that applies to you)

You should choose a char for at least 1 of 3 reasons:

1.) You love their game.
2.) You like playing with them.
3.) You need a secondary that's different from your main but still fun XD
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Post by zachisasian Wed Oct 15, 2008 5:50 pm

me and rei were the first ones to start using colors. don't even lie man.
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Post by Rei Wed Oct 15, 2008 5:52 pm

Find a way to beat them. No character is impossible. Ask Stealth and his buddy Pika. Also please watch Danny destroy that Snake with Pit.

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Post by HanZo Wed Oct 15, 2008 5:53 pm

lol....out of all the time i saw Rei used orange...or gold... when i saw u post i NEVER saw u wit Cyan untill like...wat 2 3 weeks? but wow...w/e im not gona argue over color i'll jus change itand stealth's pika is fun to play but dam hate that mouse and its thunder jus so mean when it zaps u
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Post by ZephronŠ Wed Oct 15, 2008 5:55 pm

Zach is right Hanzo, he was using it way before you. Choose a different color.


I like olive. That is mine from now on <.<
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Post by Rei Wed Oct 15, 2008 5:57 pm

Back on topic please.

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Post by Captain Olimar Wed Oct 15, 2008 6:08 pm

I hate MK so much <_< but i wouldn't ban him at tourneys ._. i just hate the spamming MKs, because MK can stop a single falcon punch with just a tap <.< . Plus his move set completely annihilates more than half the roster
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Post by PhailWhale Wed Oct 15, 2008 7:03 pm

I cannot say much about tiers.First,I never believed in them and second,the first time I watched somehing about tiers,I found out what a wavedash is.I always loved playing Melee (means Dr.Mario vs my brothers Falco,neutral dodge and smash attack,till somebody gets hit)how it is.I may start to sound cocky now but I always believed that I am one of the best Melee-players in the world.After I watched few Melee Youtube-videos,there was some video called "Advanced SSBB-tricks",I watched it,and I never was in the mood to play Melee again.It was more like glitches to me.

Today,I was able to play Melee and did wavedashes with Luigi.lolwut.And for some reason,I cannot handle Dr.Mario anymore but Fox and Falco. Aka top tier.
To Metaknight,yeah he´s maybe a kind-of 1337-character,but doesn´t deserve a ban from tournies.He is beatable.Objectiles,like Wolf´s laser or Pikachu´s B can easily make him mess up.To make myself clear "Tier lists" aren´t officially made by Nintendo so I don´t have to believe in it (OMG Fox´s moves are so ownage in SSBM!!!1). But MK can be pretty unbeatable at laggy WiFi-games.
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Post by Kingdom Come Wed Oct 15, 2008 8:18 pm

ummm hate to tell yall but i suck big ballz when it comes to playing metakinght......

anyways i dont believe there is any reason to ban mk. people who have deciated their time and trust me mk takes some skill will feel bad about this decision and i for one know how to counter mks i mean me and petro have some fun games his mk my link and were about even

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Post by Zero Thu Oct 16, 2008 3:59 am

PFFT, LOW TIERS ARE THE CHEAPEST!! (haha, I voted that Smile)

now, I don't really care about tiers I just play and go against any characters. I don't even remember 80% of the tier list lol.
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Post by Jaguaris Thu Oct 16, 2008 7:34 am

How the **** are low tiers cheap? I stopped Using R.O.B Because he was top tier. I never liked using top tiers because it is what everyone else does. So I now main Sheik and Mario, They are fun to play as and they were in some amazing games and thats why I like them. I voted that Top Tiers are cheap.
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Post by Fyro Thu Oct 16, 2008 7:40 am

I just use character that feel "normal/easy" for me...MK was was one of them Neutral But yeah, I dont care about tiers that much...It's just a list of characters that shows which has won most tournies Razz
Edit: this shows what i mean https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MEV-qw2vy2k
And btw...I only won ssj5 once; it was when he played top tier character ;P


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