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How about sawnic. i will post here some techniques that i know.

Spindash Attack Recovery

Spindash Attack Recovery is a technique that allows you to return to the stage from the edge with aerial attacks. This is done by using the [Side-B] Spin Dash away from the ledge into an imidate [jump] > Aerial. This can be very useful against Smash attacks to your edge position.

How to do a Spin Dash Recovery...

Edge Position > [Side-B] Away from Edge > [Jump] + Aerial

(Please note that this technique can be done with most aerial attacks it is recommended that you use a [Back-Air] as it is usually the only move that will be effective in this situation. This is unless your opponent has jumped Off-Stage to try and Stage-Spike you of course)

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Edgejumping

Edgejumping is a technique that allows you to correct a misstimed [Up-B] recovery by jumping off the ledge of a stage. It can also be used as a Short-Hop like suprise attack to enemy at the stage's edge.

How to do an Edgejump...

[Up-B] > Under Stage-Edge > [L-Stick] (Towards Edge) + [Jump]

How to do an Edgejump attack...

[Up-B] > Under Stage-Edge > [L-Stick] (Towards Edge) + [Jump] > [Foward-Air]

(Please note that this technique does also work without having done an [Up-B] recovery beforehand but is somewhat pointless used in this situation. Also only a [Forward-Air] can be used after an Edgejump for the suprise attack. Other aerials will result in you missing the stage)

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Dair Spiking

Dair Spiking is a technique that allows you to use your [down-air] attack to prevent your opponent from recovering when off-stage. A [down-air] attack that connects with your opponent early in the moves duration will knock your opponent back at an upwards angle but a [down-air] attack that connects with your opponent late in the moves duration with knock them back away from the angle of the [down-air] attack. This knockback can be used to force your opponent to far back to recover as they have usually already used their [Jump] by this point. You can then recover from your [down-air] attack and edgeguard your opponent.

How to do a Dair Spike...

[Jump] > [Down-Air] > [Jump] > [Up-B] > Edgeguard
[Jump] > [Jump] > [Down-Air] > [Up-B] > Edgeguard

(Please note that the second of these two options is more risky but sometimes nessecary to target the [Down-Air] correctly)

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Dair Cancelling

Dair Cancelling is a technique that allows you to perform a [down-air] attack without the usual landing lag. The input method is the same as a usual [down-air] attack. To perform a Dair Cancel you must be higher than the moves duration. This can be achieved by several methods.

How to do a dair cancel...

[Jump] > [Jump] > [Up-B] > [Down-Air]
[Jump] > [Up-B] > [Down-Air]
[Up-B] > [Down-Air]

Move Properties

Because a Dair Cancel allows you to perform a dair without the landing lag it means you can reach the ground much faster than by any other method and go straight into another attack or action.

Combo Possibilities

Dair-Cancel > [Down-Smash]
Dair-Cancel > [Forward-Smash]
Dair-Cancel > [Dodge-Roll]
Dair-Cancel > [Grab]

Pretty much anything...

Other Uses

Dair Cancelling can not only be used to return to the stage at high speed but also to an edgeguard. Beware however that if you have miss-judged the moves duration you will [down-air] past the ledge and will be unable to recover as you have already used your [Up-B] to perform the missed Dair Cancel.

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Spin Shot

Spin shot is the technique that allows you to do a "short hop" at something similar to running speed, allowing Sonic to have higher air speed.

How to do a spinshot...

[Side-B/Down-B (Charge)] > Release + [Jump/Attack]

Move Properties

You can only perform a spinshot when you have both jumps remaining as a spinshot technically counts as a double jump. It will not work from a grounded Spin Charge because you are not in the air and it will not work without a double jump because you can't 'jump-cancel' the moves.

Note how the description is a 'short hop'. The 'jump-cancel' from the input [Jump/Attack] during an ASC or SD is much lower in height than a normal double-jump. It is this form of double jump that allows you to perform a spinshot.

It is also possible to Fast-Fall a Spinshot much like an SDJ. This can be done by holding down on the [L-Stick] after you have reached the maximum height on the Spinshot. This is very useful for chaning the spacing on your approaches and recoverys and you are able to vary when in the move you start to Fast-Fall. This is alter your landing position.

Combo Possibilities

Spinshot > [Down-Smash]
Spinshot > Fast-Fall > [Down-Smash]
Spinshot > [Down-Tilt] > [Up-Smash]
Spinshot > [Down-Tilt] > [Grab]

There are many Combo possibilities from a Spinshot...

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ASC Cancel

ASC Cancelling is a technique that allows you to perform a [Side-B/Down-B] attack whilst in the air (ASC) into a [shield] as soon as you connect with the ground. The input method is exactly the same as the technique suggests. This technique is perfect to use to set up some high damage ground attacks.

How to do an ASC cancel...

[Jump] > [Side-B/Down-B] (Charge) > [Shield]

Move Properties

This move will stop you exactly where you land with an immediate shield. Although obviously any part of the ASC leading into the [shield] will be vulnerable to attack as usual.

Combo Possibilities

ASC Cancel > [Grab]
ASC Cancel > [Side-Dodge]

This can also be effective if you achieve an early connection with the Spin Charge to give your opponent some slight knockback.

Early Connection Combo Possibilities

ASC Cancel > [Up-Smash]
ASC Cancel > [Forward-Smash]


And yeah that's it,lol.

Dude youd be best off choosing Lucario or Diddy. Personally of the chars on that list those 2 will have the lowest learning curve for you because they are quite similar melee wise.(meaning a short hop and attack is almost always the best choice.)

zachisasian wrote:JIGGLYPUFF!

Quote FTW

I dont know any for kirbs but for jiggs you can learn how to do rising pound really well which will give you alot of recovery options.

JIGGLYPUFF!

Plaid02 wrote:

As much as I hate to say this, I don't really like JIGGLYPUFF! as much as Kirby. Sorry. I just can't rest, and Jigglypuff's ground game is not as good. (Kirby's side smash is ridiculous)

Jigglypuff's air game more than makes up for what appears to be a poor ground game. No other character can edgeguard as well with such a solid air move repertoire.

And just like Jiggs, the air is where Kirby shines. Both characters have a decent ground game at best, but the air is where it's at for those two.

you should use Toon Link

oh
You should have mentioned that

omg plaid. you didnt have to make me almost spit out my water.
I was drinking it and started laughing when i read this