Neutral Stage Debate Topic

uh we can actually argue about that.

Aaron SMASH! wrote:fd is the only neutral no argument needed

FD is not the only neutral stage lol. In Brawl, they have alot of stages that that have no dangerous stage effects. FD is one of them ,but not the only one. All the ones in the list I provided on the first page should list them.

What about Pit's stage that sky place with the collapsable floors?

I don't think it could be consider neutral...

skyworld isn't neutral. the floors can stop people from dying.

the list of stages u left also have platforms which benefit some characters rather than others...

no platforms do not benefit certain characters. if u dont have a good air game or u spam up smash thats ur problem but it doesnt benefite certain chars just playstyles.

Platforms definitely benefit some characters more than others. Ike and Bowser immediately come to mind.

FD is about the least neutral of the neutral stages that exist. It's inherently flawed for some recoveries (wolf for example) and greatly supports a campy game and star KO's due to being a very wide stage. Platforms don't make a stage not neutral, if anything I'd say they only hinder divebomb attacks, most of which are very bad to use anyway. I'd say out of the neutrals (Yoshi's, Battlefield, Lylat, FD, Smashville, Pokemon Stadium 1, And Delfino) smashville is the most "fair" all around.

As far as counterpicks, which are allowed is entirely up to the event holder you have. Within reason a counterpick list can include
Halberd
Castle Siege
Luigi's Mansion
Green Greens
Distant Planet
Norfair
Frigate Orpheon
Rainbow Cruise
Jungle Japes
Great Sea
Picto Chat
Sky World
Yoshi's Island (Melee)
Brinstar
And Corneria

Before you go "Well some of those stages arent fair"... it's a counterpick, it's not meant to be fair. It's meant to put you at a disadvantage and force you to adapt or change something.

Rykoshet wrote:Platforms definitely benefit some characters more than others. Ike and Bowser immediately come to mind.

FD is about the least neutral of the neutral stages that exist. It's inherently flawed for some recoveries (wolf for example) and greatly supports a campy game and star KO's due to being a very wide stage. Platforms don't make a stage not neutral, if anything I'd say they only hinder divebomb attacks, most of which are very bad to use anyway. I'd say out of the neutrals (Yoshi's, Battlefield, Lylat, FD, Smashville, Pokemon Stadium 1, And Delfino) smashville is the most "fair" all around.

True that. Although, not only with the characters, some playstyles require some more room than others, if you catch my drift. Battlefield, compared to FD, is a much smaller stage and thus being defensive isnt always so easy. FD makes defensiveness insanely easy. Some players are defensive and offensive... so compare playstyles too.

I dont think there can be a pure "neutral stage". Smashville can be pretty close, but personally, I dont like it. Not the stage itself, but the background. Animal Crossing? Thats the least epic stage ever. If youre trying to make something fun and epic, Smashville utterly ruins it in my view. Quote: In my view. for those who would like to argue for some reason.

lol how neutral a stage is, is not determined by it's background....

Wasnt saying that the background didnt make it neutral, was saying I dont like fighting on such a cartoony stage.

smashville is the best place to brawl on. you just don't have any taste. :p

Any... taste? Yeah... its so epic when 2 snakes fight eachother with explosives with animals cheering in the background... and playing music.. and with fluffy bunnies on the side. Yeah... so epic. So... tasteful...

Indeed.

you're not supposed to pay attention to the animals when you're brawling anyways. and i never noticed a fluffy bunny. maybe thats why you sd so much. you pay too much attention to the scenery.

That was kind of mean... and no I just keep my replays and notice how weird it looks.

This is all coming from the guy who mains TL? The cutest and most cartoony character in the game? lol. His bombs emit cute little orange clouds, his funny little emotions he makes, and lets not forget those taunts. Thats just my opinion though.

Its a certain kind of cartooniness

And I dont really like the thing I like the game "not the graphics" and the way the char plays. thats all that matters.

Back on topic, Smashville is the most neutral stage. FD is too big. To me, all that matters is that I'm playing somewhere that is fun and makes me happy. I thought BF was lame but now it helps my game and has great music XD.

smashville goes from day to night and has rock concerts. and who can't love the smashville music.

I love the music. Just dont like the theme. Never really was an Animal Crossing fan.

i never played animal crossings.

Brawler04 wrote:no platforms do not benefit certain characters. if u dont have a good air game or u spam up smash thats ur problem but it doesnt benefite certain chars just playstyles.

let me get this straight... so yoshis eggs wouldnt be an advantage in a stage with platforms? i disagree.......

I agree with Brawler. It doesn't benefit characters ,but the players play style. There might be a Yoshi user that doesn't use egg throw as much as another. Granted, some stages can be counter picked I still say it is complete dependent on play style. I know this Marth player by me that is terrible on Battlefield , while my game excels on Battlefield. =/

yoshis eggs are usually stopped by the platforms so it really isn't an advantage.

So wait, Shadow Moses isn't a counterpick at least? weird, huh? . It would at least qualify to be a counterpick stage. Yea, it stops you from dieing but still just hit them up. When I fight there by the time I'm ready to kill them the walls are already destroyed. Also, the excuse walk off stage does not compute. The reason being is the fact that Delfino Plaza and Castle Siege. I don't see how this is a banned stage.

IMO!